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PostSubject: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 8:46 pm

THE (PROPOSED) REGIONAL CONSTITUTION OF GLOBAL POWERS

ARTICLE 1: POWERS OF THE OFFICERS

President:
1. Veto laws (not amendments. Can be overturned by vote of 2/3 for)
2. Organize and cooperate with the Ministers and Chiefs
3. Call for Official Meetings (all Officers must be present.)

Vice President:
1. Temporarily replace any Ministers or Chiefs that must resign until elections are held.
2. Serve as Acting President if the current President is unable to perform until the President is able to do so
3. Serve as Acting President if the current President is forced to resign until new elections for President are held
4. Temporarily replace any ministers or chiefs if the current minister or chief is unable to preform until the minister or chief is able to

Chief of Foreign Affairs:
1. Appoint diplomats
2. Member of the House of Lords in the NS Republic (or can appoint a diplomat to that position)
3. Cooperate with the President to create a foreign policy
4. Cooperate with the Minister of Finance on any Trade Treaties

Minister of Technology:
1. Create the technological policy of Global Powers
2. Propose new projects to develop by the region as a whole
3. Is the Head Scientist of any research project
4. Can cooperate with the Chief of Staff create subcommittees to focus on specific projects

Chief of Staff:
1. Ensure the cooperation and participation of all Officers
2. Cooperates with all Chiefs and Ministers to create new subcommittees and sub-positions
3. Is Acting Vice President should the Vice President be unable to perform his/her duties until the Vice President is able to
4. Is Acting Vice President should the Vice President be forced to resign until new elections are held

Minister of Justice:
1. Presides over any cases involving grievances between two nations as the Chief Justice
2. Cooperates with the Chief of Foreign Affairs in any cases involving a member of Global Powers and a foreign member
3. Can order an injunction
4. Can order a subpeona if it is deemed necessary

Minister of Finance:
1. Cooperates with the President to create a regional budget
2. Cooperates with the Chief of Foreign Affairs to create Trade Treaties with other regions
3. Presides over the Stock Market of the Region (If/ When we make one.)

WA Delegate:
1. Represents Global Powers in the World Assembly
2. Forms judgements on proposals in the World Assembly
3. Can remove foreign invaders from the region, should the Region Founder be unable to do so.

ARTICLE 2: RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF MEMBERS

Section 1: Rights of Members
All Members have the Following Rights:
1. The right to vote on laws and in elections
2. The right to freedoms of speech, privacy, religion, and peaceful assembly
3. The right to run for office
4. The right to introduce new proposals to the region
5. The right to propose new amendments to the Constitution
6. The right to the pursuit of happiness
7. The right to request assistance from other members
8. The right to be free from any form of libel or malicious slander

Section 2: Responsibilities of Members
All Members have the Following Responsibilities:
1. The responsibility to protect fellow members from attack
2. The responsibility to ensure the protection of Global Powers
3. The responsibility to participate in the regional government as a voting member
4. The responsibility to ensure the protection of the people
5. The responsibility to abide by the Regional Constitution


Section 3: Elastic Clause
The enumeration in the Regional Constitution of certain rights and responsibilities shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the members of Global Powers.

ARTICLE 3: REGULATIONS AND RULES ON VOTING AND ELECTIONS
Section 1: Regulations on Voting
1. A member has only one vote. Colonies are not allowed to have a vote. Embassies representing a member not in the region of Global Powers receive a vote.
2. A vote for a proposal takes a simple majority to pass. If vetoed by the President, it requires two-thirds majority
3. A vote to remove an Officer who has violated the Constitution and passed laws require a two-thirds majority to remove the Officer.

Section 2: Regulations on Elections
1. A member can seek to run for one office per election.
2. Candidates may not commit libel against their opponents in their campaign
3. The candidate who receives the most votes in their election becomes the Minister or Chief of the office they were running for (exception: WA Delegate. See Section 3.)
4. In cases of tie, there will be a recount by the voters. Should this tie fail to be broken, the President can choose the candidate they feel is best suited to hold the Office.
5. Elections are to be held on the seventeenth of every third month starting in the next election held under these regulations.
6. An officer may only serve three consecutive terms. After these three consecutive terms, the officer must resign. After another term has passed, any member can once again run for office.
7. Rule 6 is void in cases where the Office holder is uncontested for a fourth consecutive term. This will continue until the office is contested by another candidate.

Section 3: WA Delegate
1. There shall be no formal elections for the position of World Assembly Delegate. An endorsement cap shall be enforced at 50% of the Delegate's endorsements
  • If a nation passes the endorsement cap without following the process labeled in Subsection 2, they have 24 hours to reduce their amount of endorsements to under the endorsement cap. If they fail to do so, they will be subject to an ejection or a ban, depending on their intent.


2. Anyone may run against the WA delegate at any point in time. However, to pass the endorsement cap they have to do the following:
  • Have been present in the region for at least one month
  • Have been given approval by at least one government officer
  • Have made a formal statement, declaring what they intend to do as WA Delegate


ARTICLE 4: AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION
Section 1: Phase 1 of the Amendment Process
1. To propose an amendment, one must gain five signatories from other members to agree to support this Amendment.
2. The Amendment is sent to the Regional Government

Section 2: Phase 2 of the Amendment Process
1. The Regional Government is required to read and debate on the Amendment
2. The Officers are allowed to propose their own changes to the Amendment to better word it. It requires 5/8 to approve the change.
3. Out of all the Officers, three-fourths must agree to the Amendment. If this is accomplished, the Amendment is sent to the other members.

Section 3: Phase 3 of the Amendment Process
1. Members are required to review over the Amendment. It is encouraged that they express their own opinions on it.
2. Members are allowed to propose their own changes to the Amendment as well. It requires a simple majority to approve the change to the Amendment.
3. Out of EVERY member (this includes Officers as well), two-thirds must agree to the Amendment. If this is accomplished, the Amendment is added to the Constitution.

ARTICLE 5: Status on Laws Prior to the Constitution
Laws that were created and passed prior to the enactment of this Constitution are still in effect. Any laws that have had their workings incorporated into this Constitution will be hereby null and void.



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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 10:32 pm

"2. Candidates are discouraged to commit slander and libel against their opponents in their campaign"
-All I ask for is a chance to run therefore all I ask is to change this so it's not allowed instead of discouraged.

Section 1: Rights of Members
Number 10 perhaps...
"The right to be free from any and all biases based on events prior to this constitution."
-As in they cannot bring anything about me up in official IC matters (OCC is fine) but in any argument of anything they cannot use it against me or any other member whom self-destroyed their reputation...so pretty much everyone starts off with a clean slate once this constitution is ratified.

Section 1: Regulations on Voting
Number 4 perhaps...
"All members are required to register all colonies to prevent one player to receive two votes, if any member is suspected to have not register a colony or did not register one; then a just punishment will be voted upon."
-As in in order to ensure no one will get a double vote everyone must register all colonies within our region. If someone doesn't register they will be voted upon for a punishment. And is someone suspects someone not to of registered on it will be taken seriously and investigated.
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeThu Jun 09, 2011 10:45 am

Almaniania wrote:
THE (PROPOSED) REGIONAL CONSTITUTION OF GLOBAL POWERS

ARTICLE 1: POWERS OF THE OFFICERS

President:
1. Veto laws (not amendments. Can be overturned by vote of 2/3 for)
2. Organize and cooperate with the Ministers and Chiefs
3. Call for Official Meetings (all Officers must be present.)
has it already been decided that the president and WA delegate are staying separate?


Vice President: I think 'Vice office' would be better, since he replaces everyone not just the president
1. Temporarily replace any Ministers or Chiefs that is forced to resign until elections are held.
Temporarily replace any ministers or chiefs if the current minister or chief is unable to preform until the minister or chief is able to
2. Serve as Acting President if the current President is unable to perform until the President is able to do so
3. Serve as Acting President if the current President is forced to resign until new elections for President are held

Chief of Foreign Affairs:
1. Appoint diplomats
2. Member of the House of Lords in the NS Republic (or can appoint a diplomat to that position)
3. Cooperate with the President to create a foreign policy
4. Cooperate with the Minister of Finance on any Trade Treaties

Minister of Technology: Do we need this position, it just seems A little superfluous
1. Create the technological policy of Global Powers
2. Propose new projects to develop by the region as a whole
3. Is the Head Scientist of any research project
4. Can cooperate with the Chief of Staff create subcommittees to focus on specific projects

Chief of Staff:
1. Ensure the cooperation and participation of all Officers
2. Cooperates with all Chiefs and Ministers to create new subcommittees and sub-positions
3. Is Acting Vice President should the Vice President be unable to perform his/her duties until the Vice President is able to
The above covers all this 4. Is Acting Vice President should the Vice President be forced to resign until new elections are held
5. Is Acting President if the Vice President and the President are both unable to perform their duties until one of the two are able to
6. Is Acting President if the Vice President and the President have both resigned until new elections are held


Minister of Justice:
1. Presides over any cases involving grievances between two nations as the Chief Justice
2. Cooperates with the Chief of Foreign Affairs in any cases involving a member of Global Powers and a foreign member
3. Can order an injunction
4. Can order a subpeona if it is deemed necessary

Minister of Finance:
1. Cooperates with the President to create a regional budget
2. Cooperates with the Chief of Foreign Affairs to create Trade Treaties with other regions
3. Presides over the Stock Market of the Region (if we have one...) no we don't

WA Delegate:
1. Represents Global Powers in the World Assembly
2. Forms judgements on proposals in the World Assembly
3. Can remove foreign invaders from the region, should the Region Founder be unable to do so. (this means the WAD needs to be given executive powers)

ARTICLE 2: RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF MEMBERS

Section 1: Rights of Members we need to have a roll call/census to find out who the active members, make them the members who have these rights. Just have form to fill out for citizenship, do we know when they applied and so and so forth
All Members have the Following Rights:
1. The right to vote on laws and in elections
2. The right to freedoms of speech, privacy, religion, and peaceful assembly
3. The right to run for office
4. The right to introduce new proposals to the region
5. The right to propose new amendments to the Constitution
6. The right to the pursuit of happiness ?
7. The right to request assistance from other members
8. The right to be free from any form of libel or malicious slander

Section 2: Responsibilities of Members
All Members have the Following Responsibilities:
1. The responsibility to protect fellow members from attack
2. The responsibility to ensure the protection of Global Powers
3. The responsibility to participate in the regional government as a voting member
4. The responsibility to ensure the protection of the people
5. The responsibility to abide by the Regional Constitution


Section 3: Elastic Clause
The enumeration in the Regional Constitution of certain rights and responsibilities shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the members of Global Powers.

ARTICLE 3: REGULATIONS AND RULES ON VOTING AND ELECTIONS
Section 1: Regulations on Voting
1. A member has only one vote. Colonies are not allowed to have a vote. Embassies representing a member not in the region of Global Powers receive a vote.
2. A vote for a proposal takes a simple majority to pass. If vetoed by the President, it requires two-thirds majority
3. A vote to remove an Officer who has violated the Constitution and passed laws require a two-thirds majority to remove the Officer.

Section 2: Regulations on Elections
1. A member can seek to run for one [color=red]single[/color] office per election.
2. Candidates are discouraged to may not commit slander and libel against their opponents in their campaign
3. The candidate who receives the most votes in their election becomes the Minister or Chief of the office they were running for.
4. In cases of tie, there will be a recount by the voters. Should this tie fail to be broken, the President can choose the candidate they feel is best suited to hold the Office.
5. Elections are to be held on the fifth of every third month starting from June
6. An officer may only serve three consecutive terms at once. After these three consecutive terms, the officer must resign. After another term has passed, any member can once again run for office.
7. Rule 6 is void in cases where the Office holder is uncontested for a fourth consecutive term. This will continue until the office is contested by another candidate.

ARTICLE 4: AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION
Section 1: Phase 1 of the Amendment Process
1. An amendment can only be proposed if there is a need for it.
2. To propose an amendment, one must gain five signatories from other members to agree to support this Amendment.
3. The Amendment is sent to the Regional Government

Section 2: Phase 2 of the Amendment Process
1. The Regional Government is required to read and debate on the Amendment
2. The Officers are allowed to propose their own changes to the Amendment to better word it. It requires 5/8 to approve the change.
3. Out of all the Officers, three-fourths must agree to the Amendment. If this is accomplished, the Amendment is sent to the other members.

Section 3: Phase 3 of the Amendment Process
1. Members are required to review over the Amendment. It is encouraged that they express their own opinions on it.
2. Members are allowed to propose their own changes to the Amendment as well. It requires a simple majority to approve the change.
3. Out of EVERY member (this includes Officers as well), two-thirds must agree to the change. If this is accomplished, the Amendment is added to the Constitution.

ARTICLE 5: Status on Laws Prior to the Constitution
Laws that were created prior to the enactment of this Constitution are to be once more voted upon. Any laws that have had their workings incorporated into this Constitution will be hereby null and void.



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This is my draft of the Constitution. Comments and constructive criticism is welcome. Please do not spam.
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeThu Jun 09, 2011 11:07 am

Finium wrote:
Almaniania wrote:
THE (PROPOSED) REGIONAL CONSTITUTION OF GLOBAL POWERS

ARTICLE 1: POWERS OF THE OFFICERS

President:
1. Veto laws (not amendments. Can be overturned by vote of 2/3 for)
2. Organize and cooperate with the Ministers and Chiefs
3. Call for Official Meetings (all Officers must be present.)
has it already been decided that the president and WA delegate are staying separate? (Not yet, but I believe this too much power for one person to hold.)


Vice President: I think 'Vice office' would be better, since he replaces everyone not just the president (The name really doesn't matter)
1. Temporarily replace any Ministers or Chiefs that is forced to resign until elections are held.
2. Temporarily replace any ministers or chiefs if the current minister or chief is unable to preform until the minister or chief is able to
3. Serve as Acting President if the current President is unable to perform until the President is able to do so
4. Serve as Acting President if the current President is forced to resign until new elections for President are held

Chief of Foreign Affairs:
1. Can appoint diplomats
2. Member of the House of Lords in the NS Republic (or can appoint a diplomat to that position)
3. Cooperate with the President to create a foreign policy
4. Cooperate with the Minister of Finance on any Trade Treaties

Minister of Technology: Do we need this position, it just seems A little superfluous (It is included unless the majority of people don't want it.)
1. Create the technological policy of Global Powers
2. Propose new projects to develop by the region as a whole
3. Is the Head Scientist of any research project
4. Can cooperate with the Chief of Staff create subcommittees to focus on specific projects

Chief of Staff:
1. Ensure the cooperation and participation of all Officers
2. Cooperates with all Chiefs and Ministers to create new subcommittees and sub-positions
3. Is Acting Vice President should the Vice President be unable to perform his/her duties until the Vice President is able to

4. Is Acting Vice President should the Vice President be forced to resign until new elections are held
5. Is Acting President if the Vice President and the President are both unable to perform their duties until one of the two are able to
6. Is Acting President if the Vice President and the President have both resigned until new elections are held

(I contest the removal of number 4 by stating that we need to lay down specifics for each case. The rest is agreed upon.)

Minister of Justice:
1. Presides over any cases involving grievances between two nations as the Chief Justice
2. Cooperates with the Chief of Foreign Affairs in any cases involving a member of Global Powers and a foreign member
3. Can order an injunction
4. Can order a subpeona if it is deemed necessary

Minister of Finance:
1. Cooperates with the President to create a regional budget
2. Cooperates with the Chief of Foreign Affairs to create Trade Treaties with other regions
3. Presides over the Stock Market of the Region (if we have one...) no we don't (And if we happen to make one?)

WA Delegate:
1. Represents Global Powers in the World Assembly
2. Forms judgements on proposals in the World Assembly
3. Can remove foreign invaders from the region, should the Region Founder be unable to do so. (this means the WAD needs to be given executive powers) (This is just a confirmation of what the WAD can do already.)

ARTICLE 2: RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF MEMBERS

Section 1: Rights of Members we need to have a roll call/census to find out who the active members, make them the members who have these rights. Just have form to fill out for citizenship, do we know when they applied and so and so forth (Perhaps that might be a good idea. Let's take it up with the others)
All Members have the Following Rights:
1. The right to vote on laws and in elections
2. The right to freedoms of speech, privacy, religion, and peaceful assembly
3. The right to run for office
4. The right to introduce new proposals to the region
5. The right to propose new amendments to the Constitution
6. The right to the pursuit of happiness ?
7. The right to request assistance from other members
8. The right to be free from any form of libel or malicious slander

Section 2: Responsibilities of Members
All Members have the Following Responsibilities:
1. The responsibility to protect fellow members from attack
2. The responsibility to ensure the protection of Global Powers
3. The responsibility to participate in the regional government as a voting member
4. The responsibility to ensure the protection of the people
5. The responsibility to abide by the Regional Constitution


Section 3: Elastic Clause
The enumeration in the Regional Constitution of certain rights and responsibilities shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the members of Global Powers.

ARTICLE 3: REGULATIONS AND RULES ON VOTING AND ELECTIONS
Section 1: Regulations on Voting
1. A member has only one vote. Colonies are not allowed to have a vote. Embassies representing a member not in the region of Global Powers receive a vote.
2. A vote for a proposal takes a simple majority to pass. If vetoed by the President, it requires two-thirds majority
3. A vote to remove an Officer who has violated the Constitution and passed laws require a two-thirds majority to remove the Officer. (Your movement to strike out a certain part of this disturbs me. This is to prevent any abuses of this power.)

Section 2: Regulations on Elections
1. A member can seek to run for one single office per election.
2. Candidates are discouraged to may not commit slander and libel against their opponents in their campaign
3. The candidate who receives the most votes in their election becomes the Minister or Chief of the office they were running for.
4. In cases of tie, there will be a recount by the voters. Should this tie fail to be broken, the President can choose the candidate they feel is best suited to hold the Office.
5. Elections are to be held on the fifth of every third month starting from June
6. An officer may only serve three consecutive terms at once. After these three consecutive terms, the officer must resign. After another term has passed, any member can once again run for office.
7. Rule 6 is void in cases where the Office holder is uncontested for a fourth consecutive term. This will continue until the office is contested by another candidate.

ARTICLE 4: AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION
Section 1: Phase 1 of the Amendment Process
1. An amendment can only be proposed if there is a need for it.
2. To propose an amendment, one must gain five signatories from other members to agree to support this Amendment.
3. The Amendment is sent to the Regional Government

Section 2: Phase 2 of the Amendment Process
1. The Regional Government is required to read and debate on the Amendment
2. The Officers are allowed to propose their own changes to the Amendment to better word it. It requires 5/8 to approve the change.
3. Out of all the Officers, three-fourths must agree to the Amendment. If this is accomplished, the Amendment is sent to the other members.

Section 3: Phase 3 of the Amendment Process
1. Members are required to review over the Amendment. It is encouraged that they express their own opinions on it.
2. Members are allowed to propose their own changes to the Amendment as well. It requires a simple majority to approve the change.
3. Out of EVERY member (this includes Officers as well), two-thirds must agree to the change. If this is accomplished, the Amendment is added to the Constitution.

ARTICLE 5: Status on Laws Prior to the Constitution
Laws that were created prior to the enactment of this Constitution are to be once more voted upon. Any laws that have had their workings incorporated into this Constitution will be hereby null and void.



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This is my draft of the Constitution. Comments and constructive criticism is welcome. Please do not spam.

Anything in orange is my own opinions.
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeFri Jun 10, 2011 2:13 pm

Starting from June replaced by starting the next election, and we will need to have a consensus on whether it be three or five months. I would remove the "Slander" sections of the what candidates can do part. Libel shouldn't be allowed but slander can be quite fun to watch.

Can't you find a way to work my two laws into the constitution. I'd just find it a bit repetitive to vote them in again.

"An amendment can only be proposed if there is a need for it" seems rather like a futile, subjective clause. Remove it. I also believe that you should reverse the order in which an amendment is given. First it should go through the govt, then it should go through the common people.

" It requires a simple majority to approve the change." and "two-thirds must agree to the change" seems rather contrary to one another. Overall it should just be a majority vote. Other than that this seems rather nice. If you fix my problems with it, I shall approve it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeFri Jun 10, 2011 3:00 pm

I'll get right on the other stuff now...
But going back to the last part, I meant for the two-thirds to mean that the Amendment is approved. The simple majority is for a change in the wording.

EDIT: As for your two laws, read the new Fifth Amendment.
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeSun Jun 12, 2011 8:57 am

And though I do like the 5th of the month idea, this election has been pushed far past that date so whenever this one starts that will be the prime day
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeThu Jun 16, 2011 4:36 am

I hope you don't mind Al but I went ahead and pinned this as a global announcement.
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Nope. Not a bit. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeThu Jun 16, 2011 8:24 am

Also I've been proposing a new way to do delegate elections on the RMB but few are responding. It's been approved by myself and Maxedon and no one has spoken against it. I'll repost it soon
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeThu Jun 16, 2011 9:46 am

I guess I'm for it. If the WA Delegate had more power, I would... but it doesn't. Razz
Anyways, should we bring the Constitution to a vote?
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeFri Jun 17, 2011 5:19 pm

I vote for this then. I say 3 month election periods
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PostSubject: Re: The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers   The Proposed Regional Constitution of Global Powers Icon_minitimeFri Jun 17, 2011 11:32 pm

Yeah, that's the current.
I'm setting up the poll and heading to sleep.
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